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and, that, also, i think, gives cover to the administration's positioning on this. >> chris: bill, we also got fascinating revelation from that senate hearing with defense secretary panetta, this week and we talked about what he revealed about syria but he said that on the night of the benghazi attacks, september 11th, of this last year, that he and general dempsey spoke to the president once early on, and then never again. let's take a look. >> did the president show any curiousty about how it is going, what kind of assets do you have helping these people? did he ever make the phone call? >> there is no question in my mind the president of the united states was concerned about american lives. >> with all due respect, i don't know if that is a credible statement if he never called and asked you, are we helping these people. >> >> chris: given -- it was a series of attacks but the overall action went on over course of 7 hours, in benghazi the night of september 11th. what do you make of that? >> it is genuinely shocking, 5:30 that night, the president -- he briefed the the what was hap
and, that, also, i think, gives cover to the administration's positioning on this. >> chris: bill, we also got fascinating revelation from that senate hearing with defense secretary panetta, this week and we talked about what he revealed about syria but he said that on the night of the benghazi attacks, september 11th, of this last year, that he and general dempsey spoke to the president once early on, and then never again. let's take a look. >> did the president show any curiousty...
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i think the rules and practices that the obama administration has followed are -- are quite stringent and are not being abused. but who is to say about a future president? and so i think -- i think this idea of being able to execute in effect an american citizen, no matter how awful, having some third party being -- having a say in it or perhaps some informing the congress or the -- intelligence committees or something like that, i just -- i think some check on the ability of a president to do this has merit as we look to the longer-term future. >> when it became known that the bush administration was using enhanced interrogation techniques on certain folks that had been captured, the outrage was immediate. and yet we have the u.s. targeting an american -- an american citizen and killing an american citizen and we see that the use of drones widely approve by the american people and there hasn't been much until recently out of congress. why do you -- how do you account in the difference in the reaction? are they entirely separate? is that a curious thing? >> how about politics? >> i'll
i think the rules and practices that the obama administration has followed are -- are quite stringent and are not being abused. but who is to say about a future president? and so i think -- i think this idea of being able to execute in effect an american citizen, no matter how awful, having some third party being -- having a say in it or perhaps some informing the congress or the -- intelligence committees or something like that, i just -- i think some check on the ability of a president to do...
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a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a ranking al qaeda figure. who, the target pose an imminent threat of violent attack against the u.s., and, three, that the targets capture is not feasible. all of those seem like terms that are open to pretty broad interpretation. >> that's exactly right, alex. i think one of the things that is most troubling and remarkable about this memo are that what appear to be restrictions on the first page of the memo become permissions by the end of it when you start reading how they're defined. take imindependence, for example. the administration says that it can only target people who are an imminent threat, bu
a washington post abc news poll this month found 83% of americans approved of the obama administration's drone policy. the 11% opposed perhaps ad hereins of the old ben franklin adage that those who give up their liberty for more security metro deserve liberty nor security. hannah, i want to go to you first on this given all the work that you've done in and around the issue of drones. the administration laid out three criteria for the killing of u.s. sit sfwlenz. one, that the target be a...
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. >> the approach that the obama administration is following is consistent with and really derived from the bush administration approach to the war on terror and i think it's entirely sensible. >> do you agree with that? lindsey graham saying totally sensible. >> we are fighting a war that's much different than the classic and traditional wars that we have fought in the past. the result of that is the methods of fighting that war and the way that americans are involved in the war are different than what they have in the past. and so, we're really in a process today of a much maturing way of handling these, of looking at them. i think there's going to be a robust discussion amongst the american people as to how we actually do that. what you're seeing with the brennan nomination hearing today is going to be the tip of the iceberg. we've been discussing this for a long time. >> yes. >> within the intelligence committee. >> and the president directed as we discussed the justice department to give congressional intelligence committee access to the classified memos and i want to play what the
. >> the approach that the obama administration is following is consistent with and really derived from the bush administration approach to the war on terror and i think it's entirely sensible. >> do you agree with that? lindsey graham saying totally sensible. >> we are fighting a war that's much different than the classic and traditional wars that we have fought in the past. the result of that is the methods of fighting that war and the way that americans are involved in the...
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administration, gates, hagel, lahood. we're trying to do the right thing -- >> we're out of time. anybody think he's not going to get confirmed? >> he's going to get confirmed absolutely. >> great roundtable. stephanie will stick around and answer your facebook questions on the web exclusive and george saunders getting attention over his new book "tenth of december." he joins us next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 seems like etfs are everywhere these days. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 but there is one source with a wealth of etf knowledge tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 all in one place. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 introducing schwab etf onesource™. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 it's one source with the most commission-free etfs. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 one source with etfs from leading providers tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and extensive coverage of major asset classes... tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 all brought to you by one firm tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 with comprehensive education, tools and personal guidance tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 to help you find etfs that may
administration, gates, hagel, lahood. we're trying to do the right thing -- >> we're out of time. anybody think he's not going to get confirmed? >> he's going to get confirmed absolutely. >> great roundtable. stephanie will stick around and answer your facebook questions on the web exclusive and george saunders getting attention over his new book "tenth of december." he joins us next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 seems like etfs are everywhere these days. tdd#:...
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the big story today is the appearance on capitol hill of two major obama administration officials. tonight on "special report," the president's counterterrorism advisor, john brennan, faced questions in his bid to become c.i.a. director. brennan has been linked to both the drone and enhanced interrogation programs and we'll talk live with the vice chair of the senate intelligence committee, sax bee chambliss. leon panetta said there was not enough time to get a military team olin i can't on the night of the benghazi. horror stories out of turkey, syrian refugees recount what they saw that drove them out of their country. and a massive manhunt out west. police from los angeles to las vegas are looking for a former lapd cop suspected of a shooting spree. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern. now back to new york and "the five". ♪ >> welcome back to the five. senator bob menendez is at the center of a prostitution scandal and now there are allegations that he may have inappropriately used his power to help his friend, dr. solomon melgen. the same doctor whose
the big story today is the appearance on capitol hill of two major obama administration officials. tonight on "special report," the president's counterterrorism advisor, john brennan, faced questions in his bid to become c.i.a. director. brennan has been linked to both the drone and enhanced interrogation programs and we'll talk live with the vice chair of the senate intelligence committee, sax bee chambliss. leon panetta said there was not enough time to get a military team olin i...
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a major reversal for the obama administration. the white house will brief lawmakers about drones. the administration will release classified documents about the legal justification for using drone strikes to kill american citizens. >> this is an encouraging first step, and especially because it comes at a time when the lines have blurred between the military and the intelligence field, and it's going to be so important to do robust congressional oversight in order to protect both our security and our liberty. >> senator widen is one of the senators who was pushing for the release of more noftion and it comes just hours before the confirmation hearing for john brennan. the white house counterterrorism adviser was the architect of the president's drone policy and one of its biggest defenders. >> it's this surgical precision, the ability with laser-like focus to eliminate the cancerous tumor called an al qaeda terrorist. >> i want to bring in "the washington post's" political reporter nia-malika henderson and politico's white house reporter carrie brown. good morning. >> good morning
a major reversal for the obama administration. the white house will brief lawmakers about drones. the administration will release classified documents about the legal justification for using drone strikes to kill american citizens. >> this is an encouraging first step, and especially because it comes at a time when the lines have blurred between the military and the intelligence field, and it's going to be so important to do robust congressional oversight in order to protect both our...
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not just going forward for the obama administration, but going forward, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. how will we approach these sorts of future -- hopefully they don't occur, but future benghazis and drone strikes in the future against american citizens. it's really about ten years in the future rather than five years in the past. >> steve clemons, michael lighter, and joining me now senator jay rockefeller who serves on the intelligence committee and is a former chairman of the committee. senator, you are the expert. what does the committee want to hear today from john brennan before deciding to vote whether he should be the next cia director? >> i think what we're going to hear -- i've had good talks with john brennan. i have known him for a number of years, and the fact of the matter is, you know, he himself was not aware of the intelligence and the eitc enhanced interrogation and torture stuff. there's a lot that he -- until we wrote a 6,000 page document with 23,000 foot notes. he has read the summaries of that, and he is shocked. there's a lot people don't know even though they
not just going forward for the obama administration, but going forward, you know, 10, 15, 20 years. how will we approach these sorts of future -- hopefully they don't occur, but future benghazis and drone strikes in the future against american citizens. it's really about ten years in the future rather than five years in the past. >> steve clemons, michael lighter, and joining me now senator jay rockefeller who serves on the intelligence committee and is a former chairman of the committee....
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a new discussion with the obama administration wanting to bring gitmo to new york and give them trials where they have lawyers, rights to appeal. cross examination, decided by a jury and yet here under this government program, a high government official, i don't know who that is. judge, jury, executioner of americans. >> again, i have concerns about the hypocrisy. >> greta: forget the hypocrisy. do you have any trouble with that? >> again, i have to say it's depending on the circumstances. my feeling is that in certain circumstances, that option should be available to a president, but it should be very good intelligence and as high threshold of standards, that has to be in a country where-- >> yemen would be out to you. >> based on the circumstances it would be a higher threshold. i think as i said earlier it would not necessarily be out, but other countries where we have relations where we do work with the government not doing drones-- >> and do you think you'll be running for president. >> we'll be talking and we're certainly open to looking at 2016. >> greta: it's definitely not a n
a new discussion with the obama administration wanting to bring gitmo to new york and give them trials where they have lawyers, rights to appeal. cross examination, decided by a jury and yet here under this government program, a high government official, i don't know who that is. judge, jury, executioner of americans. >> again, i have concerns about the hypocrisy. >> greta: forget the hypocrisy. do you have any trouble with that? >> again, i have to say it's depending on the...
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but rougher waters lie ahead for some other obama administration cabinet nominees. chuck hagel failed to impress a lot of republicans during his confirmation hearing, who had already harbored doubts with his past controversial statements. his testimony reinforced experience held by some. that he is unprepared for such a vital post. >> i am really deeply concerned about what i saw last week. i think i'm leaning no on this nomination and i will tell you why. it was shocking to me when he was asked about our policy toward iran, that the fundamental -- one of the fundamental threats to our country that he didn't know that our policy was not containment? i moon, that was shocking. >> c.i.a. director nominee john brennan performed better in his confirmation hearing. yet faces criticism for holding the bush and obama administrations to two different ethical standards in the war on terror. the republicans are determined to hold up his nomination for another reason. >> it is absolutely essential that the documents this committee has requested on benghazi be supplied before t
but rougher waters lie ahead for some other obama administration cabinet nominees. chuck hagel failed to impress a lot of republicans during his confirmation hearing, who had already harbored doubts with his past controversial statements. his testimony reinforced experience held by some. that he is unprepared for such a vital post. >> i am really deeply concerned about what i saw last week. i think i'm leaning no on this nomination and i will tell you why. it was shocking to me when he...
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. >> she later moved over to the pentagon for the obama administration. she says they advocated a policy of trying to contain al-qaeda in north africa, instead of building up the abilities of regional governments to fight them. she says there's no guarantee mukhtar will confine himself to north africa. >> france is definitely a country where he would carry out terrorist attacks. also against americans in american insulations in africa. >> similar perhaps to osama bin laden. when the 1990s began, he was in saudi arabia. in 1992, he crossed into africa and escapeded assassination in sudan. in 1996, bin laden took a chartered flight to afghanistan. in 1998, president clinton ordered a missile strike on bin laden and missed, but crews say they missed other opportunities to get bin lad b. whether the miss on mukhtar ever comes close to the miss on bin laden remains to be seen. >> still to come, the child who was held hostage in an underground bunker celebrated his birthday today. what we now know about the man who held him captive. plus, survivors of the sandy
. >> she later moved over to the pentagon for the obama administration. she says they advocated a policy of trying to contain al-qaeda in north africa, instead of building up the abilities of regional governments to fight them. she says there's no guarantee mukhtar will confine himself to north africa. >> france is definitely a country where he would carry out terrorist attacks. also against americans in american insulations in africa. >> similar perhaps to osama bin laden....
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>> i'm reminded through weeks into his first term of the obama administration. time geithner gives a speech at the treasury department about our banking industry and how to save it. three weeks into the administra.ekinto his tenure. the market dropped 382 points. two weeks ago, tim geithner walked out of the treasury department, four years later, as one of the most influential treasury secretaries in the history of our country. so we get into all of these kerfuffles about one hearing or a few answers. chuck hagel is an infantryman who executed the orders of the secretary of defense and the commander in chief and understands what those people go through, and he'll be a good secretary of defense. >> i know we talked about this. bill kristol wrote the following, comparing chuck hagel to harriet myers and almost daring them to do with harriet myers. they simply thought she wasn't a first-rate candidate. they were confident that bush and the courts and the country could do better. it wasn't pleasant in 2005 for them to oppose a nominee tore to gi but it was the right
>> i'm reminded through weeks into his first term of the obama administration. time geithner gives a speech at the treasury department about our banking industry and how to save it. three weeks into the administra.ekinto his tenure. the market dropped 382 points. two weeks ago, tim geithner walked out of the treasury department, four years later, as one of the most influential treasury secretaries in the history of our country. so we get into all of these kerfuffles about one hearing or a...
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administration's drone campaign. "the washington post" reveals that the u.s. has been operating the secret drone base for the last two years. brennan played a key role in negotiating the base with the saudi kingdom. meanwhile, charlottesville, virginia, has become the first city in the country to pass a resolution restricting use of drones by law enforcement. >>> president obama's asking law makers to take quick action as a march for a deadline approaches that will trigger deep spending cuts signalling that more time is negotiated a broader deal. he urged lawmakers to delay the sequester. but coming up with a limited package of spending cuts and tax reforms. nearly $1 trillion of domestic and defense spending hanging in the balance, the president said the impact is already being felt. >> we've also seen the effects of political dysfunction can have on our economic progress. the drawn out process for resolving the fiscal cliff hurt consumer confidence. the threat of massive automatic cuts have already strt r staart af
administration's drone campaign. "the washington post" reveals that the u.s. has been operating the secret drone base for the last two years. brennan played a key role in negotiating the base with the saudi kingdom. meanwhile, charlottesville, virginia, has become the first city in the country to pass a resolution restricting use of drones by law enforcement. >>> president obama's asking law makers to take quick action as a march for a deadline approaches that will trigger...
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. >> the other question it raised in your article is the obama administration asked the faa to speed up processing of integrated drones into civilian air space. they could be used by police departments, farmers, builders, hollywood, but with this progress comes some concern, right? >> absolutely. so the article by my wonderful colleague lev grossman, i believe the cover line is "drones come home." what he did is after explaining to people how much we're relying on drone technology abroad for national security, he's saying what people may be even less aware of is the degree to which they are about to come back and really explode in their domestic use. law enforcement, border control, possibly paparazzi flying little drones over the backyards or god forbid up to the windows of celebrities and a variety of other uses. everything from farmers using them to look at their crops to real estate agents who are creating little videos of properties they're trying to sell. there are a lot of promising aspects of this, as with most any technology. for instance, the internet, it's so wonderful, th
. >> the other question it raised in your article is the obama administration asked the faa to speed up processing of integrated drones into civilian air space. they could be used by police departments, farmers, builders, hollywood, but with this progress comes some concern, right? >> absolutely. so the article by my wonderful colleague lev grossman, i believe the cover line is "drones come home." what he did is after explaining to people how much we're relying on drone...
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senator obama criticized the bush administration vociferously over their secret memoranda. candidate obama promised he would make full disclosure of the secret memos of the bush years and in fact, within a few months of coming to office, he did so. i think against that background, it is all the more shocking that president obama has launched on the same course of keeping really vital memoranda of this sort secret. there, you saw eric holder, really not able to articulate a justification. >> john: exactly. it is not just president obama. it is whoever is the next president and the president after that. medea, i know the democrats think they'll control the white house until 2024 at this point but are you concerned that not just president obama but future administrations, even if governor romney had become president right now last month they could use these legal arguments to continue targeted killings of citizens? >> yes of course. it is a huge power grab by the executive that does an end run against the judiciary but it also does an end run against congress because they say
senator obama criticized the bush administration vociferously over their secret memoranda. candidate obama promised he would make full disclosure of the secret memos of the bush years and in fact, within a few months of coming to office, he did so. i think against that background, it is all the more shocking that president obama has launched on the same course of keeping really vital memoranda of this sort secret. there, you saw eric holder, really not able to articulate a justification....
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he called the obama administration the imperial presidency. he stepped out today to show there are no rough edges in this republican party. let's listen to cantor today. >> we'll advance proposals aimed at producing results in areas like education, health care, innovation, and job growth. our solutions will be based on the conservative principles of self-reliance, faith in the individual, trust in family, and accountability in government. our goal is to ensure that every american has a fair shot to the earn success and achieve their dreams. >> what a cover-up. your party ought to be ashamed of itself. you spent months in every state legislative capital trying to keep black people and poor people from voting or young people. now you're out pretending that you care about opportunity in america. it's an absurdity eric cantor -- >> the speech by eric cantor was a very good speech. >> if it wasn't given by him maybe. >> eric cantor is a good guy. he's got a family. he cares about this country. he's a patriot. he cares about making government work b
he called the obama administration the imperial presidency. he stepped out today to show there are no rough edges in this republican party. let's listen to cantor today. >> we'll advance proposals aimed at producing results in areas like education, health care, innovation, and job growth. our solutions will be based on the conservative principles of self-reliance, faith in the individual, trust in family, and accountability in government. our goal is to ensure that every american has a...
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susan colins says fundamental principals are at stake. >> the obama administration released all these opinions from the office of legal council about the bush administration's treatment of detainees. so why the different stad. >> first reported by nbc news, a leaked draft memo argues americans such as anwar al awlaki, the first american targeted for death, you are lawful because of their leadership within al-qaeda among other factors. >> our primary concern is keep american people safe. but to do so in a way consistent with our laws and consistent with our values. >> when pushed to explain how an american can be deemed an imminent threat with no evidence of a plot, jay carney reached for the same explanation. >> it's necessary to mitigate threats. >> the acu says there's a disconnect. >> there's no court in the united states or anywhere around the world that would accept this view that a president, one person, can decide how and when to kill their own citizens without checks or balances. >> the senator's letter is the most forceful that lawmakers may stop or block mr. obama's nominee
susan colins says fundamental principals are at stake. >> the obama administration released all these opinions from the office of legal council about the bush administration's treatment of detainees. so why the different stad. >> first reported by nbc news, a leaked draft memo argues americans such as anwar al awlaki, the first american targeted for death, you are lawful because of their leadership within al-qaeda among other factors. >> our primary concern is keep american...
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i want to comment on what chris rock said obama is not our daddy. he was elected by us to serve the people. i think that's where not just these celebrities have it backwards, but i think the administration has it backward. you have ask any of these celebrity what is if the president or daddy, would have put 32 executive orders on the first amendment? there would be mayhem if did he it for maybe an amendment that they throw their arms around, like they were doing at that press conference. >> good point. end on a bad point. ahead, president obama's hypocrisy on drone strikes. some liberals aren't happy with him keeping secrets from the american people. that's next on "the five" >> we're going to take a look at -- peek at the senate confirmation hearing. john brennan, the c.i.a. director nominee, president obama's c.i.a. director nominee, senators grilling him on questions ranging from drones to waterboarding to authorized leaks and on and on. so it's ongoing and i think bret baier will summarize the whole hearing at 6:00 o'clock. so stay right here. i
i want to comment on what chris rock said obama is not our daddy. he was elected by us to serve the people. i think that's where not just these celebrities have it backwards, but i think the administration has it backward. you have ask any of these celebrity what is if the president or daddy, would have put 32 executive orders on the first amendment? there would be mayhem if did he it for maybe an amendment that they throw their arms around, like they were doing at that press conference....
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is this -- was this a problem for the obama administration? and how do republicans attack him for using the same authority george bush did? >> right. it is a serious civil liberties issue, the killing of american citizens should obviously not be taken lightly. i wouldn't say that there should be no use of drones to take out al-qaeda leaders, but clearly, we are killing innocent people and that's unconscionable. >> we are going so without due process. you know, as americans we have a right to under the constitution and who decides which ones we take? the big question is -- and i was trying to get a question in but my question really is here is the one phrase in this whole memo, tim, that gets me is: who makes the decision? identified as quote, "an informed high-level official of the u.s. government"? who is that? >> we have no idea. >> bill: how high up the food chain does that decision go? >> right. this is going to have implications for international law that we are not going to like. we need to be conducting this processes out in the open an
is this -- was this a problem for the obama administration? and how do republicans attack him for using the same authority george bush did? >> right. it is a serious civil liberties issue, the killing of american citizens should obviously not be taken lightly. i wouldn't say that there should be no use of drones to take out al-qaeda leaders, but clearly, we are killing innocent people and that's unconscionable. >> we are going so without due process. you know, as americans we have a...
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but thus far iran has not been willing to sit down with the clinton, bush or obama administration. iran recently announced it will add new machines to speed up the ability to enrich uranium. mahmoud ahmadinejad says iran's program is for civilian purposes. but the u.s. and other nations believe iran is trying to build a nuclear weapons arsenal. one fox military analyst says the offer for bilateral talks probably won't go anywhere. >> probably just a signal to let the europeans think we are trying. it is a feel good thing but it's not going to happen. let's be realistic about it. i think we have to start moving out and taking covert measures, not overt. covert measures with others to ensure that they do not get nuclear weapons. >> general mcinerney says they are stalling to develop more weapons. >>> the vice president's gesture may be falling on deaf ears as they unveil their new warplane. the plane called the dominant 313 is made in iran. according to the nation's military it combines a speed of a fighter jet with the firepower of a bomber and can evade radar but none of the planes
but thus far iran has not been willing to sit down with the clinton, bush or obama administration. iran recently announced it will add new machines to speed up the ability to enrich uranium. mahmoud ahmadinejad says iran's program is for civilian purposes. but the u.s. and other nations believe iran is trying to build a nuclear weapons arsenal. one fox military analyst says the offer for bilateral talks probably won't go anywhere. >> probably just a signal to let the europeans think we...